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Manuel del Rio's avatar

Really wise post, but I expect no less from Frances. It hits the nail on the head.

Myself, I have become with age really weary and suspicious of ideological labels, but this is mostly an overreaction from my early memetic capture by some and the great difficulties I had breaking away from them. So now I overcompensate by something like Ord's Moral Uncertainty applied more generally to ideas and beliefs: I can't commit too much to any or let them determine who I am (attachment style: commitment averse).

You can only do this with some labels, though, and to some degree. Some really are tied with our self-perceptions and self-esteem and painful to renounce. One I can feel I can probably stick to permanently is that of a truth-seeker and an incredibly curious person.

On the EA front, I discovered the movement relatively late in life (3 years ago, already in my forties). I stick to the classical 'EA Adjacent' not so much because of avoiding fall-back (I mean, I started to get into EA after learning about it through the FTX fiasco, so how worse can it get?), but just because after some years of reading and thinking, there are important aspects of EA I agree and feel comfortable with, and others I don't.

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Dylan Richardson's avatar

This is accurate! And I think the reason it holds is that the original Paul Graham essay is a pretty flawed final product, that just happened to be memifiable enough to serve as a schelling point for an attitude.

I reviewed it here, also explaing my own preferred stance on identity:

https://open.substack.com/pub/dylanrichardson/p/neither-small-nor-broad-identity?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=rj6jj

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